1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,000 The Russian Infantryman 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,000 The Russian Infantryman 3 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,000 The Russian Infantryman 4 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,000 The Russian Infantryman 5 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,000 While on a reconnaissance mission, 6 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,000 a Russian infantryman comes face to face 7 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,000 with a legendary nemesis. 8 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,000 Everybody halted and was just 9 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,000 watching these lights. 10 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,000 Then we start to hear whispering 11 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,000 Decommonia, Yvonne. 12 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,000 I am terrified. 13 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,000 Yes, yes. 14 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,000 You can't explain what happened. 15 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,000 An Air Force engineer 16 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,000 uncovers a national secret 17 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,000 supporting the existence of UFOs. 18 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,000 We were told for 55 years 19 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,000 that there was nothing but Mars gas. 20 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,000 I really wanted to find out 21 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,000 what the truth was about extraterrestrials. 22 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,000 As the investigation 23 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,000 unfolds, an Air Force pilot 24 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,000 comes forward with a startling 25 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,000 account. 26 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,000 And I saw a metallic looking 27 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,000 color. I don't know what 28 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,000 was driving that thing, but it wasn't a conventional 29 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,000 engine. 30 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,000 I've got 2,000 hours of flying time. 31 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,000 I was there. 32 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,000 Who are you going to believe? 33 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,000 The public needs to know this. 34 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,000 It's about time that they were told. 35 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,000 I definitely believe that what I experienced was paranormal. 36 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,000 Even though I am so skeptical 37 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,000 of everything. 38 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,000 After the fall of the 39 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,000 Soviet Union in 1991, 40 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,000 China's 41 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,000 Soviet Union 42 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,000 was a terrible 43 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,000 country. 44 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,000 It was a terrible country. 45 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,000 It was a terrible country. 46 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,000 It was a terrible country. 47 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,000 It was a terrible country. 48 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,000 It was a terrible country. 49 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,000 The Soviet Union in 1991, 50 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,000 Chechnya, 51 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,000 a Republic of the former USSR, 52 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,000 took up arms to declare its independence. 53 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,000 But its strategic 54 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,000 location just north of the Middle East 55 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,000 made it a valuable asset for the Russians. 56 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,000 So by 1994, 57 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,000 Russia invaded, 58 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,000 and the enemies waged war for two years. 59 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,000 During that time, 60 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,000 a mysterious force was set to haunt the region, 61 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,000 luring in the unsuspecting. 62 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,000 Villagers, they would always 63 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,000 make remarks about 64 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,000 Boogeyman or if the devil would come out at night 65 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,000 and kill us. 66 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,000 I didn't believe in any of these ghost stories. 67 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,000 But I'm starting to 68 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,000 think this is 69 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,000 not normal. 70 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,000 I'm an infantryman in the US Army. 71 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,000 The risk that I'm taking coming forward 72 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,000 is that I previously left 73 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,000 the Russian military service. 74 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,000 I exchanged some 75 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,000 important information with the US military 76 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,000 in order to 77 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,000 get a citizenship. 78 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,000 I'm originally from Arkhangelsk, 79 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,000 which is a northwestern province of Russia. 80 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,000 My family 81 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,000 was very heavily involved with the Russian government. 82 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,000 My father 83 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,000 was a Tsarshina Milodna, 84 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,000 which is a sergeant major 85 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,000 of the VDV with Russian Airborne. 86 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,000 When I was younger, 87 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,000 I was a nationalist 88 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,000 or someone who was extremely patriotic. 89 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,000 I wanted what was best for Russia 90 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,000 and not realizing that I was 91 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,000 just being manipulated. 92 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,000 But back then, 93 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,000 I wanted to join the military 94 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,000 as soon as I could have my own thoughts. 95 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,000 In order to do so, I had to 96 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,000 lie about my age 97 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,000 and I actually joined when I was 16. 98 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,000 I cut off communication 99 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,000 with my family when I moved to America. 100 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,000 I am not 101 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,000 able to ever see Russia 102 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,000 ever again. 103 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,000 In 2009, 104 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,000 I was selected to be 105 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,000 reconnaissance infantryman 106 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,000 because of my top marks in airborne school. 107 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,000 Being a reconnaissance 108 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,000 infantryman in the Russian Army 109 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,000 is very prestigious. 110 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,000 These officers are responsible 111 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,000 for intelligence gathering and perform 112 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,000 sensitive missions in the field. 113 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,000 These are the best of the best 114 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,000 in the Russian military. 115 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,000 In the spring of 116 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,000 2009, Mikhail 117 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,000 and his platoon are deployed to Chechnya, 118 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,000 where tensions between the rebels 119 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,000 and Russian soldiers reignited. 120 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,000 The First Chechen War 121 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,000 comes to an end in 1996. 122 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,000 It's basically a Russian defeat. 123 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,000 But the Second Chechen War begins 124 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,000 and it lasts 10 years and one of the 125 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,000 most violent of the 20 and 21st century. 126 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,000 The 127 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,000 unit was the 45th Independent Guard Brigade. 128 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,000 It's entirely 129 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,000 based upon special reconnaissance. 130 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,000 Our goal was 131 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,000 unconventionally fight enemies, 132 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,000 disrupt enemy supply lines 133 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,000 and to divert enemy attention 134 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,000 towards targets that were not 135 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,000 real. 136 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,000 During 137 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,000 springtime in Chechnya, 138 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,000 it's constantly 139 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,000 raining. There's almost always some sort 140 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,000 of fog on the ground. 141 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,000 Our main goal was 142 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,000 gather intelligence on the enemy. 143 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,000 So we would typically 144 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,000 talk to villagers, especially people 145 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,000 we thought might look open to 146 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,000 talking with the Russian government. 147 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,000 One of the key pieces 148 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,000 of intelligence that we had learned 149 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,000 was that it was common for insurgents 150 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,000 to cache weapons 151 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,000 in woods or bury them. 152 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,000 When we find buried 153 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,000 insurgent firearms, 154 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,000 we carry it back. 155 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,000 Especially in more 156 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,000 rural areas, it's important to be quiet 157 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,000 because the human voice, even whispering 158 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,000 can be heard from a lot further 159 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,000 than most people think. 160 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,000 One night, as I looked up, 161 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,000 I saw 162 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,000 10 lights some distance away, 163 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,000 bright enough that 164 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,000 I could see them with my naked eye. 165 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,000 I thought maybe 166 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,000 it could be a trick due to 167 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,000 light dispersal from fog. 168 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,000 So everybody 169 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,000 halted and was just watching these lights. 170 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,000 They looked like it could 171 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,000 possibly be people, and that's what 172 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,000 our main fear was. 173 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,000 And then we start to hear 174 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,000 whispering. 175 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,000 It starts off very 176 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,000 quietly. It sounds like 177 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,000 maybe one or two voices. 178 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,000 And the whispering starts to pick up. 179 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,000 I was hearing chetching. 180 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,000 At least to be 10 more voices joined 181 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,000 in. 182 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,000 Whispering at once, but I couldn't figure out 183 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,000 where. 184 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,000 This whispering sounded like 185 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,000 it was right next to my ear. 186 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,000 I was 187 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,000 starting to panic. 188 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,000 The lights were moving in a semi-erratic 189 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,000 pattern as if somebody was 190 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,000 running back and forth with them. 191 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,000 What Mikael sees could be 192 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,000 the result of methanogens. 193 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,000 Small, single-cell organisms 194 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,000 typically present in damp, 195 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,000 swampy forests. 196 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,000 They break down old plant material 197 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,000 and that produces what is 198 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,000 known as phosphine. 199 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,000 So this phosphine could 200 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,000 create lights. However, 201 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,000 when methanogens do this, 202 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,000 it typically produces a single 203 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,000 light, not what Mikael sees. 204 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,000 He sees separate lights 205 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,000 hovering above the ground. 206 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,000 We were waiting to see 207 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,000 if there was someone that was behind us 208 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,000 or trying to flank us and that these 209 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,000 lights were just there to distract us. 210 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,000 The use of lights by chetching 211 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,000 fighters is pretty well documented. 212 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,000 It can really dissociate 213 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,000 an enemy. If you see a whole bunch of lights 214 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,000 in a forest, you're likely to get distracted. 215 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,000 If I'm going to draw you into a trap 216 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,000 as a chetching fighter, I'm going to kill you. 217 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,000 And that's guerrilla-style tactic. 218 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,000 Suddenly, Ivan, my teammate 219 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,000 and a good friend starts 220 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,000 talking out loud. 221 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,000 Father, I'm coming! 222 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,000 It sounds like he's trying to communicate 223 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,000 with his father. His father 224 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,000 has been fighting for about two years. 225 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,000 Ivan starts to get louder. 226 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,000 He's starting to shout and run. 227 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,000 Father! 228 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,000 What are you going? Get back! 229 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,000 We're supposed to maintain our 230 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,000 element of surprise if we have any 231 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,000 left at this point. 232 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,000 Father! Shut up! We're going to get us killed! 233 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,000 I'm starting to think 234 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,000 someone is really good 235 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,000 at messing with our heads. 236 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,000 So, I abandoned 237 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,000 my position and run after him. 238 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,000 It was all happening very fast. 239 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,000 Father! I'm coming! 240 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,000 I was more worried about 241 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,000 the security of us as a whole. 242 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,000 Shut up! I thought something 243 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,000 had gone wrong and now he was acting 244 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,000 a little crazy. 245 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,000 Father! Forgive me! 246 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,000 Suddenly, Ivan threw his rifle 247 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,000 on the ground, dropped his backpack 248 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,000 and was now 249 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,000 going at a dead sprint. 250 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,000 Ivan! What are you going? 251 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,000 Get back! 252 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,000 The lights 253 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,000 are getting bigger, but there's 254 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,000 no definition in them. 255 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,000 Typically, with normal 256 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,000 lighting, you can start to see 257 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,000 the source that's projecting it 258 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,000 as you move closer in. But these just 259 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,000 seem to be like they're 260 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,000 floating in midair. 261 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,000 That was strange to me. 262 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,000 And I'm just waiting for somebody 263 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,000 to come out and kill me. 264 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,000 Father! 265 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,000 I thought we were going to get us killed! 266 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,000 While on a reconnaissance mission, 267 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,000 Russian infantryman Mikhail 268 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,000 jumps into action 269 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,000 to save his comrade Ivan 270 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,000 from an elusive danger. 271 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,000 Get back! 272 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,000 I'm starting to think this is 273 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,000 not normal, but not 274 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,000 paranormal. 275 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,000 My end goal was to 276 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,000 grab Ivan, cover his mouth 277 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,000 and possibly 278 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,000 shut him up any way possible 279 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,000 but also to recover him 280 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,000 because he was my friend and I did care. 281 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,000 Concerned about 282 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,000 what Ivan will do next, Mikhail 283 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,000 desperately tries to catch up to him. 284 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,000 I started screaming, Ivan 285 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,000 are you insane? 286 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,000 I'm trying to stop you. 287 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,000 Get back! 288 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,000 He does not answer me. 289 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,000 Ivan only continues to 290 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,000 try and talk to his father. 291 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,000 Father! Forgive me! 292 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,000 Suddenly, Ivan is 293 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,000 kneeling in front of this 294 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,000 peat bog almost in like a prayer 295 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,000 but with his arms 296 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,000 cast down on his side. 297 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,000 Get back! Ivan! 298 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,000 I want to think that 299 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,000 there's some explanation for it 300 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,000 but I'm really not sure 301 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,000 as Mikhail tries to make sense 302 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,000 of what's happening, his commander 303 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,000 catches up to witness the scene. 304 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,000 The fellies. 305 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,000 What? 306 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,000 The fellies have him now. 307 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,000 There's a legend throughout the caucuses that 308 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,000 fairies inhabit woods and bogs 309 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,000 and swamps and they will use 310 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,000 lights to bait 311 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,000 an enemy in so that they can 312 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,000 be killed or disappear. 313 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,000 The lights were definitely 314 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,000 trying to lure Ivan 315 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,000 into the water. 316 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,000 At the time, I was not asking 317 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,000 what else could this be. I was just 318 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,000 worried about making sure I wasn't getting shot. 319 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,000 Suddenly, Ivan falls to the ground 320 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,000 and Mikhail rushes to his aid. 321 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,000 Ivan! 322 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,000 When I look back up from his body 323 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,000 the lights were gone. 324 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,000 It was terrifying. 325 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,000 I stopped caring about 326 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,000 my personal safety at this point 327 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,000 to make sure everyone got home. 328 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,000 Ivan had no idea 329 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,000 what had happened to him. It was like 330 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,000 he was in a coma. 331 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,000 He couldn't remember actually the whole day. 332 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,000 It was extremely weird 333 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,000 that he couldn't remember any of it. 334 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,000 What Mikhail is witnessing in his 335 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,000 body could be the result 336 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,000 of the bog producing swamp gas 337 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,000 which poisons people. 338 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,000 Creating hallucinations, both 339 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,000 auditory and visual, and people 340 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,000 behave erratically. 341 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,000 But the question presents itself. 342 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,000 If his friend has been poisoned 343 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,000 why has Mikhail not been affected? 344 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,000 The next day we looked at each other 345 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,000 and just nodded. 346 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,000 You have missions ahead of you. 347 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,000 So it was sort of 348 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,000 put in the back of everybody's mind. 349 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,000 To this day, 350 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,000 Mikhail has never forgotten 351 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,000 what happened to him in his platoon 352 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,000 in the Chechen Forest. 353 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,000 I want to tell the story 354 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,000 because I feel like I'm a pretty 355 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,000 rational human being 356 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,000 and you can't explain what happened to me. 357 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,000 It is 358 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,000 the strangest event I've ever had 359 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,000 in my entire life. 360 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,000 If there is a thing 361 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,000 like the paranormal, I definitely believe 362 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,000 that day that's what happened. 363 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,000 It displayed 364 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,000 technologies that are not 365 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,000 of this earth. 366 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,000 Could be a security 367 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,000 threat to the United States 368 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,000 of America and its allies. 369 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,000 In the summer of 1947, 370 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,000 a rancher discovered some unusual 371 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,000 debris near Roswell, New Mexico. 372 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,000 A month later, 373 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,000 local Air Force officials 374 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,000 stated the rack was a crashed 375 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,000 weather balloon. 376 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,000 But many people believed 377 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,000 it was the remains of 378 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,000 an extraterrestrial spaceship. 379 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,000 By 1969, 380 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,000 at the height of the Cold War, 381 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,000 more than 12,000 sightings 382 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,000 had been reported. 383 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,000 Airline pilots with thousands 384 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,000 of hours experience of reported saucers 385 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,000 coming within a few hundred feet of their planes 386 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,000 and then darting off at supersonic speed, 387 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,000 leaving a glowing exhaust trail. 388 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,000 Three shiny objects in the sky 389 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,000 attracted my attention. 390 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,000 There were three flying saucers 391 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,000 in a V. 392 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,000 Since then, there has been fierce 393 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,000 debate over whether UFOs 394 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,000 have visited our planet. 395 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,000 What people saw 396 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,000 is revealed clearly by this remarkable 397 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,000 international news photo, the first 398 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,000 ever taken of a flying saucer. 399 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,000 The photo reveals the familiar disc shape. 400 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,000 From a near hovering position, 401 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,000 it accelerated rapidly 402 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,000 and vanished from sight in no time at all. 403 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,000 It's not a plane, chief. 404 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,000 I never seen anything like it. 405 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,000 Finally, in 2021, 406 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,000 US National Intelligence officials 407 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,000 release a new report with data 408 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,000 on unidentified aerial phenomena 409 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,000 that cannot be ignored. 410 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,000 While the report offers 411 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,000 vague insights into the events, 412 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,000 it leaves many of the biggest 413 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,000 questions unanswered. 414 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,000 The explanations just did not 415 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,000 latch up to what the 416 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,000 witnesses were seeing. 417 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,000 I think that triggered 418 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,000 something in me. 419 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,000 I've got to find out the truth about this. 420 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,000 The sightings make national headlines, 421 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,000 prompting the Air Force 422 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,000 to examine them as part of their 423 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,000 Project Blue Book investigation. 424 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,000 Project Blue Book 425 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,000 was a very top secret program 426 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,000 run by the US Defense Department, 427 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,000 which cataloged UFO reports 428 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,000 between 1947 and 1969, 429 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,000 principally based in Wright-Patterson 430 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,000 Air Force Base in Ohio. 431 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,000 Within two days, 432 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,000 the US Department 433 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,000 of Defense 434 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,000 of the Air Force, J. Allen Heineck, 435 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,000 who headed up Project Blue Book, 436 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,000 attributed the sightings 437 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,000 to gases released by rauding vegetation. 438 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,000 These gases, called 439 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,000 swamp or marsh gas, 440 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,000 can produce an ethereal light effect 441 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,000 from the rising methane. 442 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,000 The Air Force used this theory 443 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,000 to dismiss these UFO sightings, 444 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,000 but some refuse to 445 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,000 accept this explanation. 446 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,000 The Michigan sightings 447 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:43,000 It didn't come a major deal until the Air Force investigated. 448 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,000 Then the world went insane. 449 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:53,000 MUSIC 450 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,000 My name is Raymond Shimanski. 451 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:02,000 I was an electronics engineer for the United States Air Force for four decades. 452 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,000 I grew up in Detroit. 453 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:11,000 At the time of the UFO sightings, I am 13 years old. 454 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:16,000 And I'm living in the shadow of South Virginia Air Force Base. 455 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:23,000 I remember the jets taking off and breaking the sound barrier and alerting us to their presence. 456 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,000 MUSIC 457 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:34,000 Six years after the Michigan UFO sightings, Ray is studying electronics at the University of Detroit in 1973. 458 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:38,000 He enters a work-study program at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. 459 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:43,000 Referred to as Wright-Patt, it serves as home to the 88th Air Base Wing, 460 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:49,000 as well as the Air Force Research Laboratory, which develops and tests classified aerospace technologies. 461 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:56,000 The job that I was doing, I went into a vault where senior engineers were developing electronic circuits. 462 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:00,000 I would make sure the boards met the specifications. 463 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:07,000 I was assigned to this guy by the name of Al. Al is a mid-level engineer, and he's supposed to show me the ropes. 464 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,000 MUSIC 465 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:16,000 During the first week, we got to walk through a hangar adjoining the two buildings. 466 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:20,000 And Al says, have you heard about our aliens? 467 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:21,000 Aliens? 468 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:27,000 Al tells me we have aliens, we have their machines, they're being investigated here. 469 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,000 They've been on the base for a couple decades. 470 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:35,000 Al said the aliens are kept in the tunnels, not a little spook. 471 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:44,000 He told me there was a crash out west, the machines and the occupants were brought to Wright-Patterson for evaluation and exploitation. 472 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,000 And I'm thinking, why would he be telling me this? 473 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:56,000 That's the first I learned about the Wright-Patt connection to UFOs and about Project Blue Book. 474 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:01,000 It was a huge story on base and everybody knew what Project Blue Book was doing. 475 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:11,000 Project Blue Book was designed to determine whether or not the UFO reports constituted a national security threat to the United States. 476 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:20,000 Since 1947, we have received and analyzed between one and two thousand reports. 477 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:25,000 We have been able adequately to explain the great book of them. 478 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:37,000 However, there have been a certain percentage that have been made by credible observers of relatively incredible things that we now are attempting to resolve. 479 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:44,000 With all due respect to the Air Force, I believe that some of them will prove to be of interplanetary origins. 480 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:55,000 There were twelve thousand six hundred eighteen sightings reported, but of them only seven hundred and one were listed as unidentified. 481 00:19:55,000 --> 00:20:08,000 The remaining eleven thousand nine hundred and seventeen were all explained as either some sort of known human technology like weather balloons or optical illusions created by atmospheric disturbances. 482 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:16,000 Ray soon discovers that Wright-Patterson's connection to Project Blue Book runs deep. 483 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:28,000 In the Project Blue Book office, there's a tongue-in-cheek chart. It has about sixteen objects on it. Sputnik, a Klingon battleship, Spox Enterprise, a missile, a B-52. 484 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:33,000 Under each of the objects it says weather balloon, weather balloon, weather balloon. 485 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:38,000 But when you get to the picture of the weather balloon, it says swamp gas. 486 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:51,000 Dr. J. Allen Heineck, who is the chief debunker for the Air Force, he said these are the result of rotting vegetation in a swamp, i.e. swamp gas or marsh gas. 487 00:20:51,000 --> 00:21:00,000 There are two things that this chart told me. One, that person was also making fun of the official UFO explanations from the government. 488 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:17,000 The other thing was what Project Blue Book was in reality was the debunking program by the United States Air Force, whose sole job was to disinterest and discredit the public in UFO sightings. 489 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:34,000 I really wanted to find out what the truth was about extraterrestrials, UFOs, flying saucers. I found out every book I could in the library and I just kept digging deeper and deeper. 490 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:41,000 As Ray's career takes off, he gains greater insight into how the military works. 491 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:51,000 By 1983, I got a great job offer from Wright-Patterson, developing technology for real-time weapons systems. 492 00:21:52,000 --> 00:22:00,000 I am in charge of a very large program, run out of the deputy for research and engineering out of the Pentagon. 493 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:09,000 Then, in 1997, news reaches Ray at Wright-Patterson of a widely publicized unexplained aerial event. 494 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:25,000 On March 13, 1997, thousands of Arizona residents reported what they believed to be unidentified flying objects when they saw a series of lights in a V-shaped formation form over the skyline of Phoenix. 495 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:31,000 A few hours later, a string of stationary lights appeared and hovered over the city. 496 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:41,000 The Phoenix lights were captivating to me because I had heard all these stories about UFOs all of those years at Wright-Patterson and here is something on my watch. 497 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:56,000 Similar to the 1966 Michigan event, eyewitnesses demand answers. But this time in Phoenix, Air Force officials claim the lights originate from aircraft and flares deployed during pilot training. 498 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:05,000 A two-mile-wide flying saucer seen by hundreds of people and recorded on cameras literally flew in the shadows of Luke Air Force Base. 499 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:12,000 And the explanations just did not latch up to what the witnesses were seeing. 500 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:21,000 It triggered something in me that said, I can't stand for this. I said, I've got to find out the truth about this. 501 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:26,000 But I didn't really start active field research for almost another 10 years. 502 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:39,000 In 2015, Ray retires from Wright-Patterson and begins his investigation into the 1966 Michigan UFO event that captivated him so long ago. 503 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:48,000 I think if there was any case where I wanted to solve and make the truth known, it would be this one. 504 00:23:49,000 --> 00:24:02,000 Ray dives into his research looking for reliable UFO evidence, pouring over reports and testimonies, and finally discovers in 2019 a highly credible first-hand witness. 505 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:12,000 When I first found out about Gary Carroll, I discovered that he was a fighter interceptor pilot stationed at Selfridge Air Force Base in March of 1966. 506 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:26,000 US Air Force interceptor pilots are trained to fly the fastest jets in the world from bases near the US national borders, and their job is to intercept unauthorized or unidentified aircraft from entering US airspace. 507 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:37,000 Selfridge Air Force Base, where Gary Carroll was stationed, is only 40 miles from where all the 1966 Michigan UFO sightings occurred. 508 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:42,000 Ray discovers the retired interceptor pilot is still alive. 509 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:50,000 I'm thinking this is a pilot flying a fighter interceptor during the big UFO flap, so he might have information. 510 00:24:50,000 --> 00:25:00,000 I discovered where he lived, and so I just walked up and I said, hey, excuse me, I've written two nonfiction books about UFOs. 511 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:05,000 And his response was, then you're going to want to talk to me. 512 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:15,000 This incident that I'm referring to here was a pretty thorough experience, it turns out, with a UFO. 513 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:33,000 When Gary tells me that he actually intercepted a flying saucer slash UAP slash UFO in Southeastern Michigan early spring of 1966, I felt like I had hit the power ball. 514 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:48,000 After spending three years investigating the controversial 1966 UFO sightings in Michigan, engineer Ray Shemansky finally tracks down a first-hand witness, former Air Force pilot Gary Carroll. 515 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,000 Okay, and what rank were you at the time? 516 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,000 Captain. 517 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,000 You're captain, and what was your rank when you finally left the Air Force? 518 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,000 Full Colonel. 519 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:10,000 Colonel's and General's are the keepers of the secrets, so when he revealed to me that he was a Colonel, that is a testimony to who he was and what he did and to his integrity. 520 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:20,000 And when I asked him specifically why he wanted to tell his story, the first thing he said is, the public needs to know this. It's about time that they were told. 521 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:26,000 As Ray delves into the story, he learns more about Gary's training. 522 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:35,000 And at 24 July 1958, you show up at Webb Air Force Base and it says here, student officer flight training. 523 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,000 Yeah, that's where I earned my weight. 524 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,000 Earned your wings at Webb. 525 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,000 Yeah. So now I'm of an official pilot. 526 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:54,000 After several postings in the U.S. and overseas, Gary is assigned to Selfridge Air Force Base in January 1965. 527 00:26:55,000 --> 00:27:02,000 At that time, I was an interceptor pilot, 71st fighter interceptor squadron of the first fighter wing. 528 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:12,000 And we were part of the strategic air defense force that protects continental United States in the middle of a cold war against Soviet long range air force. 529 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:19,000 The airplanes at the 71st fighter interceptor squadron at that time were F-106s. 530 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:30,000 At the time, the F-106 Delta Dart was the most advanced fighter jet of the era, designed to reach top speeds of Mach 2, which is about 1400 miles per hour or twice the speed of sound. 531 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:37,000 It had an excellent radar system in it. It also had an infrared system. 532 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:44,000 So after a lock on, you can see both the heat picture and the radar picture on the same scope. 533 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:53,000 One afternoon in March 1966, Gary and his wingman bomb receive a call they'll never forget. 534 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:59,000 We were on alert one day, myself and another pilot, Bob Nicholson. 535 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:03,000 Calls are coming from all over southern Michigan. 536 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,000 There are people who have seen a UFO. 537 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:14,000 That was when Colonel Carol and his wingman were scrambled. 538 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:21,000 They're told that there is a bogey and you're all going to intercept that bogey. 539 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:36,000 A scramble is five minutes, very short time to get yourself from a rest condition to say 25,000 feet in a very few seconds. 540 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:40,000 Actually, the intercept is on. 541 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:54,000 As Gary and Bob fly their jets toward the UFO sightings, controllers at the nearby NORAD command center at Battle Creek are put on high alert. 542 00:28:54,000 --> 00:29:02,000 Alpha, November 1, this is Battle Creek. Maintain course and climb to 35,000 feet. Roger that. 543 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:15,000 So there's Bob Nicholson and I, 35,000 feet and this controller give us directions to get to this object by the best information that has accumulated to his position. 544 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:29,000 Gary drew a box around southeastern Michigan and he showed me the pattern that the Battle Creek control center had him going zigzagging through what we defined as the box. 545 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:38,000 This controller gives us his initial vectors. He says, maintain course. We're going to start a descent. 546 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:43,000 Gary starts at 35,000 feet but he's been moved down to 20. 547 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:51,000 We don't know really what to expect but we're going to take whatever shows up out there and become visible. 548 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:57,000 This controller starts giving me target information which is where he thinks this object's at. 549 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:06,000 Now it's time to start getting my eyes out of the scopes and putting them out the windshield to see if I see anything out there. 550 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:12,000 Battle Creek, still not seeing anything. Let's do another pass. 551 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:24,000 We did a turnaround of 270 degrees. Still we're down around 10,000 feet and we still haven't seen anything yet. 552 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:35,000 I got a glen out of the right side of me. I kind of turned my head and looked and I saw a little something. 553 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,000 It was a metallic looking but I couldn't tell what it was. 554 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:52,000 We don't start shooting. That's something we don't know what it is. It may come from some non-earthly place. It might throw you away. 555 00:30:52,000 --> 00:31:06,000 After making visual contact, US Air Force pilot Gary Carroll and his wingman Bob try to get a lock on the unidentified flying object. 556 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,000 Bob, you got it? 557 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:15,000 At this time Bob is in a tactical position so he's got to be four or five airplane wits away from me. 558 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:25,000 So I turned, Bob turned with me and now we're both looking. We've got four eyes now looking for this glen of light that we had seen earlier. 559 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,000 There he is! You got him Bob! 560 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:36,000 They're chasing it now and it's at least moving 500 miles an hour but he's not getting a lock on radar-wise. 561 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:41,000 Went right past where he should have seen him and didn't see a thing. 562 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:48,000 One of the hardest things to tell about these UFOs is that they'll break up and they lose control of the image. 563 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:54,000 We seem to do pretty good laterally but in the up and down that's harder to get contacts. 564 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:58,000 So I've slowed down now. We're only flying around about 300 miles an hour. 565 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:03,000 Just so I don't overrun things if he just knows things go by too fast. 566 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,000 Anything on your scope, Bob? 567 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,000 Negative. 568 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:15,000 The ultimate thing you're trying to do is get a lock on and once you get that lock on it'll tell you the speed, what direction it's going in, it'll tell you the distance. 569 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:28,000 I remember thinking the radar is so sketchy and indefinite the chance that that missile is going to lock on and stay locked on all the way to the target is probably not going to happen. 570 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:34,000 We're below 10,000 feet which means you can see a lot of detail on the ground. 571 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,000 Now you've got something to compare to the UFO. 572 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:43,000 And I finally saw something that I could hold my sight on. 573 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,000 There he is! 574 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:51,000 While they're going he's got a quick lock on and at that point he can determine his closing speed. 575 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:55,000 Radar is essential to guide the pilot and also to verify what that target is. 576 00:32:55,000 --> 00:33:01,000 Gary would have needed radar because his whole job is to intercept that aircraft to be able to identify what it is. 577 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:16,000 In the case of an unidentified object, presumably the radar 300 mile range as it is would have been able to corroborate the fact that there was actually something physically there as opposed to an atmospheric condition or a plume of gas or something of that nature. 578 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,000 It's really important. 579 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:32,000 I had a lock on the target and so I could see that my closing speed was about the same as what my airspeed was so that maybe when they're away a minute this guy doesn't look like he's moving. 580 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,000 I looked out, now we're closing less than five or six miles. 581 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:44,000 I just kind of focused my eyes on it and stuck on it and it seemed to come into somewhat better view. 582 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:57,000 I just see a big kind of spherical looking shape crushed down like a football and that's about all the distinction that I could see. 583 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:05,000 Gary's training had him identify everything that was in the sky, any fighter jet, any bomber, drones, whatever they were. 584 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:10,000 This did not fit the profile of anything in anybody's inventory. 585 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:15,000 We were going pretty much in the same direction then. 586 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:23,000 I had just about run out in the steel but I was going to try and be stealthy and sneak up. 587 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:27,000 My closing, I mean, he just accelerated. 588 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:31,000 Alright, Bob, light him up. 589 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:35,000 I lit up my afterburner because I thought, my God, he's going away. 590 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:41,000 I don't know what was driving that thing but it wasn't a conventional engine. 591 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,000 They're heading in this direction, they're going Mach 1.3. 592 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:51,000 And then he decided, I guess, that he wasn't going to pull up with this anymore. 593 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:57,000 All of a sudden he did a hard left turn, almost like a square turn. 594 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,000 Whoa! 595 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:07,000 Acceleration was so fast he was out of my sight in seconds and I could never pick him up again. 596 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:19,000 This thing had maneuvering capabilities that would have killed our pilots. 597 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:30,000 This UFO just absolutely jaw dropping because to make the vehicle move like they move is a totally different thing than we know how to do. 598 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:40,000 I kept the controller advised what the UFO was doing when we lost him and I've got an airplane down here in full afterburner. 599 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:44,000 We weren't anywhere in his small part speed wise. 600 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,000 Whoa! 601 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:52,000 He left and it was for good, we were never able to pick him up again. 602 00:35:52,000 --> 00:36:01,000 The pursuit of the flying saucer by Gary and Bob lasts about 90 minutes from takeoff to the time they return to the base. 603 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:14,000 Following Air Force protocol, after landing, Gary and Bob are immediately debriefed by a senior officer. 604 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:20,000 So there's Bob and I side by side. I saw that too. We treated it like a standard intercept mission. 605 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:26,000 You know, we were scrambled, we went out, we found something out there that was strange and different. 606 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:33,000 He went off someplace in the UFO and where we don't know, and we're not going to know. 607 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:45,000 When they decided to squash it, it just kind of was unsaid. Nobody ever took me aside and said, you can't ever say anything about that. 608 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:50,000 You know, you can talk about it if you want to, but they're not going to corroborate anything. 609 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:55,000 And then they wouldn't tell anybody anything, even though the reports kept coming. 610 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:01,000 And then afterwards, what I expected to be a lot of attention. 611 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,000 But nobody said anything. 612 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:15,000 I was surprised. There wasn't more of a reaction. It was just like the world went back to normal. 613 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:27,000 Gary has told me that what he saw in the air, he is 100% sure, was not ours, was not theirs, and the only thing that could have been is a flying saucer. 614 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:43,000 I did a lot of thinking about this afterwards because it made a big impression on me. Bob Nicholson and I, we agreed, we were looking at some kind of at least a UFO. 615 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:54,000 For the first time on record, retired Air Force Colonel Gary Carroll reveals the details of his extraordinary 1966 encounter with a UFO. 616 00:37:54,000 --> 00:38:01,000 Now we have a story of the highest ranking person ever in military history to come out. 617 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:09,000 We have a man who sat on a secret for 55 years and now he is changing history as we know it. 618 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:21,000 Thing with veterans, they tend to be more trustworthy in their accounts than say the average person because for someone in the military to come out and say, hey, you know, I saw this strange thing, 619 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:26,000 they're taking risks that they would get thrown in a category of, oh, you have mental health issues. 620 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:32,000 They're more cautious about saying something that could be, you know, seen as being on the fringes. 621 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:40,000 So early on, he knew that he shouldn't talk about it, though nobody swore him to see Chrissy on it. 622 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:46,000 And I'm thinking of all the reasons why he would tell me his story. 623 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:51,000 And then Gary tells me he has terminal cancer. 624 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:57,000 I think that cancer kind of gave him a free ticket. 625 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:06,000 He lived this great duty, honor, country, air force career and he felt that his secret needed to be told. 626 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:17,000 Gary's recollections 55 years after his historic scramble with the UAP have left an unforgettable impression on Ray. 627 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:26,000 Gary had a memory that was unbelievable for a man his age, you know, photographic memory. 628 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:35,000 I would just see a big kind of spherical looking shape crushed down a little bit more like a football. 629 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:45,000 I wanted Gary to draw that flying saucer for me because the primary witness from the Hillsdale, Michigan, 630 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:51,000 UFO sighting of 1966 described it as a squashed football. 631 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:58,000 And sure enough, you could have overlaid his on at least two of the other witnesses drawings, 632 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,000 but they were all consistent between and amongst each other. 633 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:10,000 You could not find a more solid evidence based UFO story than what Colonel Carroll has told us. 634 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:17,000 We were told for 55 years that there was nothing but marsh gas and now the truth is out. 635 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:23,000 I was like overwhelmed. 636 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:33,000 As rain completes his interviews with Gary in 2021, military authorities make public a long awaited report. 637 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:44,000 On the 25th of June, 2021, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence put out a nine page unclassified summary of what they had briefed to Congress just weeks before. 638 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,000 This report was very significant. 639 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:54,000 It was a historical milestone because it's the first time the government admitted that these were real. 640 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,000 These UAPs are a real phenomenon. 641 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,000 Reports of sightings are frequent and continuing. 642 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:21,000 We need to recognize the fact that Colonel Gary Carroll shared his experience years later of a UFO sighting before the declassification of the U.S. military of these UFO spottings. 643 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:28,000 That's no small thing, especially given that Colonel Carroll would have known the stigma that would come with something like that. 644 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:36,000 For someone of his rank to go on the record saying he saw a UFO is a pretty incredible thing. 645 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:43,000 The fact that Colonel Carroll trusted me, it has a lot of meaning. 646 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:52,000 He felt it was important that mankind and the government learn about this and that they use it as a data point and they are going to do the right thing.